tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2759913671101666257.post494571281915425391..comments2023-05-24T06:02:06.480-05:00Comments on Chuck's Chatter: The Iraq war ends with a whimper ...Chuck Doswellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03099345055614900157noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2759913671101666257.post-18083205972400458592011-12-22T12:27:18.302-06:002011-12-22T12:27:18.302-06:00Chuck,
I have been struggling with my thoughs on ...Chuck,<br /><br />I have been struggling with my thoughs on the Iraq War; how to express my outrage. You have done that perfectly. Thank you - well said!<br /><br />To add insult to outrage, I would love to see an independant, university-sponsored study that shows exactly who profited from the war (earning their ill gotten gains off the backs of our fine servivce men and women). A few made millions, and I am sure billions, but the rest of us are feeling the negative effects of the lack of domestic investment during these war years.Chris Websternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2759913671101666257.post-21527507264720100132011-12-20T10:12:35.198-06:002011-12-20T10:12:35.198-06:00A postscript: The biggest threat to freedom here ...A postscript: The biggest threat to freedom here in America is not from abroad. It comes from the neocons, who choose to trade our liberty for security, such as the recently-passed bill to allow the military to detain American citizens indefinitely without charge or trial - negating habeas corpus. Losing our freedoms for the illusion of security is a far bigger concern than some dirt-poor muslim in Afghanistan.Chuck Doswellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03099345055614900157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2759913671101666257.post-76536756064674375322011-12-16T16:09:40.966-06:002011-12-16T16:09:40.966-06:00To "pcannon" - I let your comment throug...To "pcannon" - I let your comment through, but you need to know that any future comments without a full name signature (that isn't some sort of pseudonym) won't be published. Thanks for your input, but please sign your full name in the future.<br /><br />John - you may be right, of course, but you're evidently more forgiving of GWB's behavior during the eight looooong years of his corrupt, crypto-fascist administration than I'm willing to be. I suspect his public stupidity was a ruse and that he had full knowledge of what he was doing.Chuck Doswellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03099345055614900157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2759913671101666257.post-62511065849355825502011-12-16T14:54:50.947-06:002011-12-16T14:54:50.947-06:00I still honestly believe GWB was to a certain exte...I still honestly believe GWB was to a certain extent bamboozled by his naiveté and his advisors. On the latter, they utterly convinced him that there were WMD...and he so wanted to believe that....and also believe their shameful ridicule of our allies and the UN.<br /><br />And then these far right people actually believe the mythology that our form of government is a one size fits all cure all. And they believe that with gleaming eyes and patriotism that is linked to that incorrect notion. <br /><br />These two things, I believe, let GWB down the awful path he took...and dragged the country mostly kicking and screaming too...except for the far right. The far right believes that gunboat diplomacy is our God-given right as Americans, after all.John Monteverdihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08699773137514930858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2759913671101666257.post-64544818611341013742011-12-15T23:47:31.500-06:002011-12-15T23:47:31.500-06:00"They have not been defending our freedom in ..."They have not been defending our freedom in America. " A good starting point indeed. Unfortunately, the mantra of defending freedom and humanitarian intervention has been deeply etched within the psyche of many in the "bewildered herd." I think any meaningful conversation on American foreign policy has to begin with a sufficient accounting of the development of the public relations(some are so bold as to call it propaganda)industry in the U.S. I suspect if we remove the direct and valid threats from our current world view...an enormous amount of profiteering will vanish.pcannonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2759913671101666257.post-87469248833197510102011-12-15T17:33:53.540-06:002011-12-15T17:33:53.540-06:00I remember the 80's when we supported Saddam H...I remember the 80's when we supported Saddam Hussein. He wasn't a problem when he gassed civilians, paved over mass graves, delivered political enemies to the family doorstep in body bags, and lobbed missiles into our ships (remember the Stark?) He was a problem when he invaded the Kuwaiti oil fields.gordon_carriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11472173197526776655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2759913671101666257.post-40460375474772877762011-12-15T14:56:38.028-06:002011-12-15T14:56:38.028-06:00I heard that speculation about why GWB was so dead...I heard that speculation about why GWB was so dead set on invading Iraq, but I don't think it has much credibility.<br /><br />If the majority in Iraq wants it to be an Islamic theocracy, then it's likely that's what it will become. Whatever happens to Iraq should be determined by Iraqis, not us. If they can't settle their disputes peaceably, then civil war is certainly possible. After all, we've had a civil war here in the US.<br /><br />I don't think we should be in the tyrant removal business, unless it's here at home, or poses a direct and valid threat to us.Chuck Doswellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03099345055614900157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2759913671101666257.post-54066583343096707162011-12-15T12:16:48.912-06:002011-12-15T12:16:48.912-06:00I get the impression that this war was a response ...I get the impression that this war was a response to Saddam's attempted assassination of the senior Bush. In any event, we will be fortunate if Iraq does not devolve into civil war -or- become dominated by Iran and Shia theocracy. I am as conservative as you can get but this conflict had only one good outcome: the removal of a murderous tyrant (Hussein).<br /><br />Let's just hope no other tyrants come into power in this fragmented excuse for a nation.larrycosgrovehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15824728842059066219noreply@blogger.com