tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2759913671101666257.post5876643760470636473..comments2023-05-24T06:02:06.480-05:00Comments on Chuck's Chatter: The dangers of chasingChuck Doswellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03099345055614900157noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2759913671101666257.post-52306666731629760562013-04-01T14:20:13.565-05:002013-04-01T14:20:13.565-05:00Wow. I just saw this now. I haven't chased i...Wow. I just saw this now. I haven't chased in years, but I do remember the passing of Jeff Wear. I remember I even got commemorative "COPUNCH" license plates for my Cherokee when Jeff went. It seems like there's been a streak of chaser community deaths since him.<br /><br />Be careful out there. Roadway dangers are huge for even the average chaser. Even more than that, looking at some others in the list, if you're thinking that killing yourself is an escape, get some help.<br /><br />Eric Flescher? Meningitis? That's incredibly rough, and a terrible way to go.<br /><br />Break the streak guys. Break the streak.Brad Berrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2759913671101666257.post-76225249888748977942012-02-14T23:12:56.964-06:002012-02-14T23:12:56.964-06:00Roger,
I couldn't agree more. I'm not i...Roger, <br /><br />I couldn't agree more. I'm not immune from dangers on the road and I <i>could</i> be the one killed by a storm for having made one bad decision in the heat of a chase. I'm sure my detractors would be happy to highlight the apparent hypocrisy if I were to be such a victim, in the same way they delighted in berating Chris Novy for his near-miss. I know I took some heat from the haters for the illegal Canadian border crossing, which actually was based on NOT being caught by the supercell storm we'd been chasing. <br /><br />Being a careful, responsible chaser doesn't preclude the possibility of making a bad decison in the heat of a chase - ask Amos Magliocco. He and the late Eric Nguyen admitted their error, as did Chris Novy - they didn't try to rationalize what they did or claim they didn't make any mistakes. Instead, they admitted their error and cautioned others not to do the same. In my book, that's both honorable and responsible.<br /><br />Pushing the safety envelope is very different from making one bad decision. But the result can be indistinguishable at a superficial level.Chuck Doswellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03099345055614900157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2759913671101666257.post-83771748773483596432012-02-14T20:06:08.275-06:002012-02-14T20:06:08.275-06:00While the "XTREME INSANE" yahoos certain...While the "XTREME INSANE" yahoos certainly are heightening their risks to themselves and others through aggressive maneuvers and reckless driving, we're all prone to the traffic crash or lightning strike. The first chaser killed by lightning or by a vehicle crash while on a storm could be you or me--despite our best efforts at safety. It's a known risk we take simply by being out there, on wet roads and under thunderstorms. <br /><br />So much of it truly is out of our control. Now isn't that motivation enough to make the best of what we *do* control, which is our own situational awareness and driving practices? We all make mistakes, but that's no excuse for making more on purpose.<br /><br />I don't understand why so many storm observers heighten that risk by standing out there filming amidst an ongoing bombardment of CGs, passing over hilltops and around blind curves, pulling out into traffic without looking, stepping in front of traffic, parking at least partway in traffic lanes, leaving equipment in the road, blocking the road, etc. It's as if people lose any sense of sanity in the rush of the moment--or it's unadulterated selfishness. The message: "I'm more important than you, which is why I (for example) pulled this radar truck straight across ongoing traffic."<br /><br />I don't wish horrible outcomes on anybody either, but the sheer numbers of people who are trying to chase storms is increasing the dangers year by year. And the risk isn't just to those doing idiotic maneuvers; it's a growing risk to us all.Roger Edwardshttp://skypix.wsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2759913671101666257.post-12948979856079147492012-02-11T08:11:26.149-06:002012-02-11T08:11:26.149-06:00Hello Chuck,
Great post and I concur with your se...Hello Chuck,<br /><br />Great post and I concur with your sentiments. When I started chasing in 1996, I only considered the storm risks and not the mere risk of driving. In the case of Andy, he was returning home from a chase and as you know, a careless drunk driver took him away. That's a risk we all face once we get behind the wheel.<br /><br />For me, storm chasing is my chance to get away from all the anguish of life and be with nature in its pure splendor. Seeing a tornado is always mystical, but just being alone on the plains with a meso nearby is spellbinding. The full view of the greatest engine ever conceived mesmerizes me. <br /><br />I also want to thank you for your invaluable contributions to storm chasing, both as a scientist and chaser. I've personally benefitted from your work.<br /><br />Cheers and safe travels for you in the 2012 season. I hope to see you out there.<br /><br />Sincerely,<br />JohnAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2759913671101666257.post-17659848892343083162012-02-11T00:13:13.169-06:002012-02-11T00:13:13.169-06:00Nice post as usual, Chuck. I know of six chasers ...Nice post as usual, Chuck. I know of six chasers who were members of Stormtrack that have passed away since 2005, and, if I recall correctly, four of the six were 30 years or younger. I think the latter observation is likely the result of the demographics of this hobby, as work and family obligations tend to reduce miles we spend chasing as people get older. I'll include the Stormtrack thread for each since they tend to include some memorials and information about each chaser:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.stormtrack.org/forum/showthread.php?28628-Andy-Gabrielson-killed-in-traffic-accident" rel="nofollow">Andy Gabrielson (2/4/12)</a><br /><a href="http://www.stormtrack.org/forum/showthread.php?24250-Matt-Hughes-passes-away" rel="nofollow">Matt Hughes (5/26/10)</a><br /><a href="http://www.stormtrack.org/forum/showthread.php?22476-Eric-Flescher" rel="nofollow">Eric Flescher (3/2/10)</a><br /><a href="http://www.stormtrack.org/forum/showthread.php?20997-Fabian-Guerra-ST-Member" rel="nofollow">Fabian Guerra (6/5/09)</a><br /><a href="http://www.stormtrack.org/forum/showthread.php?13653-Eric-Nguyen" rel="nofollow">Eric Nguyen (9/9/07)</a><br /><a href="http://www.stormtrack.org/forum/showthread.php?5199-**JEFF-WEAR**" rel="nofollow">Jeff Wear (7/11/05)</a><br /><br />Three of the unfortunate deaths (Andy, Fabian, and Jeff) were auto-/driving-related. As chasers, most of us tend to spend a lot of time on the road, including a lot of time driving very late at night (or all night), sometimes several days in a row on limited sleep. Although traffic congestion tends not to be a significant problem away from the storms in the Plains, many still have to contend with wildlife, unfamiliar roads, and, at times, weather-related driving hazards (e.g. very heavy rain). This doesn't speak of non-chasing driving hazards either, as you note.Jeff Snyderhttp://www.tornadocentral.comnoreply@blogger.com